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Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » May 11th, 2015, 3:53 pm

Hey Jon and Chris,

I know, I know: I keep dropping notes and picking your brains about possibilities for my ride, but haven't pulled the trigger...yet. I have one more questions for you though...an opinion about a build and whether you think it'll fit my ride:

Planned set-up: Flo 30 rims (24/28), Sapim CX-Ray spokes, Onyx Racing products hubs (dual Sprag rear, standard road front), Schwalbe One or Conti 4000sII 25mm tires. The bike is a 2012 Cervelo S2 running full Campy Chorus.

I don't think I'll have any brake clearance issues (clearance has been good with the tires to date on some run of the mill Campy Zondas I've been using as general purpose wheels)...but I know there isn't much room at the top of the fork arch for playing with road debris when the Conti's are fitted.

Do you think this set-up will give me any grief for clearance on my frame / fork?

Thanks,

Mike
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby Chris Thornham » May 22nd, 2015, 8:43 am

Mike,

The FLO 30 rims should fit in the Cervelo frame without any issues. The question would be the tires. Wider rims, make wider tires even wider when mounted. For example, I cannot use anything wider than a 23mm tire on my Cannondale EVO. Going to a 25mm tire causes the tire to rub the frame. I'm not 100% sure if this will happen with the S2 but I do know many people use our wheels with the S2 without any issues.

The short answer is you'll be fine with the rims but may need to double check your tires before settling on one. Keep in mind that will be true for any wider wheel.

I hope that helps.
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » May 22nd, 2015, 9:29 am

Thanks Chris.
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » August 16th, 2015, 5:52 pm

Next questions: :)

Is there a type and depth of nipples you recommend to use on the For 30's? I know you use washers in your builds, but I'm just wondering about depths of nips...12 mm or 14mm?

Also, although these are tubeless ready, I assume you need a Stan's kit or similar as all the pictures I have seen of the rim show drillings right through the rim.
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby Chris Thornham » August 19th, 2015, 2:02 pm

PsychoMike wrote:Next questions: :)

Is there a type and depth of nipples you recommend to use on the For 30's? I know you use washers in your builds, but I'm just wondering about depths of nips...12 mm or 14mm?

We use Sapim's 12mm hex head nipples.

Also, although these are tubeless ready, I assume you need a Stan's kit or similar as all the pictures I have seen of the rim show drillings right through the rim.

Yes, in order to have a tubeless set up, you will need a Stan's kit or similar.



I hope that helps,
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » September 6th, 2015, 11:16 am

Thanks for all the patience, guys....one last question: Nipple washers or no in the build? I know on rims without eyelets they can be beneficial...but only if they have the room in the rim. Your thoughts?

By the way, I've decided 28/32 for that little bit of added strength.
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » October 9th, 2016, 9:50 pm

Hey guys,

Just an update on this one....after handcycling the Ride to Conquer Cancer this year in support of a friend who crashed and became a paraplegic, I'm back into upgrading the S2 for next year. So, I'd still like to hear about the washers (yea or nay) for the build.

I'd also love to recommend a 650C Flo30 rim option to you guys....lots of handcyclists would love you if you did one as they'd be a super alternative to the massively expensive options out there now.

Next, I had a friend (yeah, he's into fixies) recommend the H+ Son SL42. The H+ Son is an old school offering (42 mm deep, but only 19 wide), so I think the Flo30 rims have the aero advantage...but you guys are the aero gurus so I'll let you confirm.

Finally, you guys ever seen Flo30s built up with white spokes, red hubs and red nips? :)
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby Chris Thornham » October 10th, 2016, 12:02 pm

PsychoMike wrote:Hey guys,

Just an update on this one....after handcycling the Ride to Conquer Cancer this year in support of a friend who crashed and became a paraplegic, I'm back into upgrading the S2 for next year. So, I'd still like to hear about the washers (yea or nay) for the build.

Sorry! I missed that question. We always recommend nipple washers. You can find all of our build recommendations in our Owner's Manual (http://flocycling.com/owners_manual/owners_manual.pdf).

I'd also love to recommend a 650C Flo30 rim option to you guys....lots of handcyclists would love you if you did one as they'd be a super alternative to the massively expensive options out there now.

Sorry but we do not have any 650c wheels.

Next, I had a friend (yeah, he's into fixies) recommend the H+ Son SL42. The H+ Son is an old school offering (42 mm deep, but only 19 wide), so I think the Flo30 rims have the aero advantage...but you guys are the aero gurus so I'll let you confirm.

We've never done a direct comparison to that rim, so unfortunately, it's impossible for me to say which wheel would be faster. Sorry I don't have any specific information on that rim.

Finally, you guys ever seen Flo30s built up with white spokes, red hubs and red nips? :)

Unfortunately I have not, but it sounds like it would look cool!
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby PsychoMike » October 10th, 2016, 4:48 pm

Chris,

Happy Thanksgiving / Columbus Day down there ;)

Thanks for letting me know about the washers...I'll plan on it. ;)

I know you don't have any 650c offerings....thought I'd put in a plug for a possible future idea. It was a far different beast running 3 wheels this year for the RtCC and I know a lot in the handcycle crowd would love an alternative to box section or full deep carbons.

As for the build....I was hoping to go really loud with red or white rims, but knowing that the Flo30's don't come in those (and the SL42 availability isn't great in red or white), I'll just have to go loud on the hubs and spokes and grab a faster rim instead ;) I think it would be a great combo (with the non-stealth red stickers) on my black with red and white stripes colored S2.
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Re: Possible build, will it fit?

Postby Chris Thornham » October 17th, 2016, 1:45 pm

PsychoMike wrote:Chris,

Happy Thanksgiving / Columbus Day down there ;)

Thanks for letting me know about the washers...I'll plan on it. ;)

I know you don't have any 650c offerings....thought I'd put in a plug for a possible future idea. It was a far different beast running 3 wheels this year for the RtCC and I know a lot in the handcycle crowd would love an alternative to box section or full deep carbons.

As for the build....I was hoping to go really loud with red or white rims, but knowing that the Flo30's don't come in those (and the SL42 availability isn't great in red or white), I'll just have to go loud on the hubs and spokes and grab a faster rim instead ;) I think it would be a great combo (with the non-stealth red stickers) on my black with red and white stripes colored S2.


Sounds like a good plan.

With respect to the 650c size wheels, there simply isn't enough demand to justify the R&D costs associated with developing them.

I hope that makes sense,
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